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Mary Brown
{K:71879} 1/10/2006
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Roger, I really like this. The colours are so wonderful. It must be such a beautiful place to be.
Mary
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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 12/5/2005
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You're so right about the hybrid technique marrying film to PS... I think if you go from slide film to digital you don't notice the restricted dynamic range so much, but I have been shooting negative exclusively for 25 years and would miss the wide latitude. This is why I never think of Velvia, and even though the speed has gone from 50 ISO to 100 it is still too slow for me to use (shaky hands, I'm afraid). I am seriously considering a digital purchase though, as my failing eyesight makes focusing difficult and my shaky hands could use one of those new lenses with built-in stabilization). Old age doesn't come alone.
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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 12/4/2005
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Merci beaucoup, Claude. Les colours d'automne sont vraiment magnifiques au Japon.
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Claude Tenot
{K:9960} 12/4/2005
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La magie du Japon, la féérie de ses couleurs....j'adore...c'est captivant...bravo à toi Roger....
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Thilo Bayer
{K:50358} 12/3/2005
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Hi Roger,
while you may be disappointed with the focus (as I don't know this cam, I cannot help you unfortunately), I love that awesome pile of different tonings and saturation. What a great shot!
best wishes,
Thilo
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Stephen Morgan
{K:585} 12/3/2005
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Hi Roger, nicely done in this photo. The photoshopped examples do make the picture what it could be. The original is not at all bad though, probably hard to get that seperation using aperature alone (I will assume you shot it wide open, or close to it). I've been following your fun with the Bessaflex on CVUG, and having lived in Japan previously for four years, can really enjoy this photo. Thanks for sharing.
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Susie OConnor
{K:34798} 12/3/2005
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What a great place this UseFilm is! I really like your original post, but what Cessy did to it adds the finishing touch. We have such a wealth of knowledge here and I'm so happy that people are willing to share it! :)
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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 12/2/2005
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Thanks, Colin. Your version definitely has the 3D look I was after. The colours look over-saturated compared with my memory of the actual scene, but apart from that (which wouldn't matter to most people anyway) this is a great improvement. I'm interested that your treatment emphasized the foreground plants.
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Chris Spracklen
{K:32552} 12/2/2005
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A wonderful mix of colours, Roger.
I've read your 'about', but I actually thought it was a really nice shot!
Best regards, Chris
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Rob Ernsting
{K:8899} 12/2/2005
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If you blur the foreground evenly you have a wonderful abstract. But that is beyond what you wanted to achieve. The colors are great.
PS I bought Kodak porta 800 and Fuji pro 800 for testing. May take a while before I got something the weather is bad :(
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Carsten Ranke
{K:14476} 12/2/2005
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Wonderful symphony of autumnal colors. A good example how film and PS work can work together - I really like what Cessy made. Some people use Velvia for stronger colors, maybe an alternative approach in this aspect. Selective blur in PS is no fake look if used cautiously. This kind of hybrid technique of film + PS is possibly the most powerful method for perfect photos, IMO (time-consuming, of course)
Cheers
Carsten
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Gabriela Tanaka
{K:16594} 12/2/2005
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Dear Roger, for me this is exactly how the viewer at Shinjuku would see it!One of your visitors wrote that this is a "psychedelic garden", but then this might be a person without any experience of Japan and a Japanese garden.What Cessy and Colin did, both versions, are very beautiful, but not the dreamy garden feeling that I know so well.I LOVE THIS ONE!!!
Gabriela
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B B
{K:30983} 12/2/2005
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Hi Roger,
don't worry for the colors...in the life all it is relative, I dream these colors to Milan in autumn!
Paola LL
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Colin Cartwright
{K:15699} 12/2/2005
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Roger. I've increased foreground sharpness, and blurred the background green. Also, I selectively increased some of the colours.
I think it creates a more, 3 - dimensional effect. I hope this is the effect you were after. (This took about 1 minute, and no complex manipulation was needed).
Colin
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cessy karina
{K:14205} 12/2/2005
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glad you like it, Roger :)
have a nice week end
cessy
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Manu
{K:13082} 12/2/2005
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Very pleased you posted this "photo help"..to me this is the main reason why these kind of sites should exsist...fo rhelping each other. Love the way Cessy solved the issue also.
Keep posting them Roger
Cheers for now
Manu
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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 12/2/2005
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Cessy, once again you have done EXACTLY what was needed. Thank you so much! This was how I saw it in my mind's eye, and why I was disappointed with the result I posted. I will carefully note your technique and hope one day to understand it, and maybe emulate it. By the way, congratulations on taking top award for your beautiful B&W photo in the Geneva Photo Society! You already know it was one of my personal favourites... It is sad to think that your careful work will only survive until the next upgrade.
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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 12/2/2005
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Ray, if you will look at what Cessy Karina did with my photo, and can see the difference she has made, you will understand why I was disappointed. She has done what I couldn't see how to do... and I wouldn't have said a thing if I could have done the same. But being critical of your own work isn't necessarily flagellating yourself, Ray, nor false modesty; it's more a way of keeping a distance from your work so that you can grow by improving on it. I believe it is good to do that... and I do my best to do so.
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cessy karina
{K:14205} 12/1/2005
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hi Roger,
wow what a colorful garden you have there
excellent work, my friend
I tried a little bit on PS, see if you like :
- first I copied the layer, blur and changed the blending mode to multiply.
- adjust opacity of the layer and erase part that you wish no layer there and then flatten the layers
- increase slightly the saturation, and played a bit with color balance (highlight increase yellow, shadow increase red)
- reduce the noise a bit
- USM to some part
voila
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Colin Cartwright
{K:15699} 12/1/2005
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I like the beautiful Japanese Autumnal flora, as it is, Roger. No disappointment from this viewer.
If you need to, you could use the blur tool, to increase the softness on the back greenery. And the sharpness tool, to increase further the illusion of fine focus, on the foreground plants.
It may enhance the impression of a more 3-dimensional image, Roger. Hope that helps.
Regards, Colin.
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Galal El Missary
{K:84569} 12/1/2005
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Amazing collection of colors , i lke it very much , hind regards Dear Roger .
Galal
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stingRay pt.4 .
{K:250401} 12/1/2005
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I cannot understand your disappointment Roger. The overall composition with these glorious colours is very beautiful and you should resist the urge to self-criticise. The shot has been taken and the result is good; Move on!
A future return visit, well, lets see now.Right at the back you already have soft focus and I would not change the effect in the pink. Sharper focus on the foreground would necessitate the use of f11, a tripod and the careful useage of DOF.
That said, if this was my shot I would have been pleased and like you,I'd've posted it. Hindsight is a wonderful yet pretty useless thing; sometimes we need to take several shots and vary our apertures and DOF to achieve something that is self-satisfying and yet STILL open to the critique of others. I LOVE IT for what it is a beautiful and colourful reminder of nature in it's glory.....Best wishes...Ray
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Len Webster
{K:25714} 12/1/2005
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A tad too much modest over this one, Roger. Looks good to me!
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Roberto Bertone
{K:13239} 12/1/2005
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Ottima composizione, cattura e colore!!!
Compl.!
Saluti.
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Ferran Rial
{K:6670} 12/1/2005
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I liek the colors you've achieved in here Roger. I don't know if it maight help you, but why don't you try to select the farest bushes and add a layer of disfocus. It might help to achieve the diferent focus range taht you are looking for. Other tahn this, I like your shot!
regards,
ferran
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Lars Tjernagel
{K:1188} 12/1/2005
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Roger, wonderful photo!
I am not sure where I could offer suggestions for improvement? I see where you are talking about with the bushes in the bottom right of the frame. Maybe if you coud have went to a slightly smaller aperture and then moved back your focal point slightly, it maight have got what you were looking for? I am not sure as I am not familar with using the type of camera you were using :)
Anyway, I hope my suggestion was not too far off the mark. However, I still think is a beautiful photo :)
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Giuliano Guarnieri
{K:36622} 12/1/2005
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Do you live in Japan or on Mars??
These colours are wonderful and so strange !! :)
...and you wrote also that you disappointed....!
Really a nice "psycadelich garden" :)
Bye
GG
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