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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 9/20/2005
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It's lovely to have your thoughtful and encouraging comments again, Mary. Hope you get to posting a lot more photos, too... I guess baby and mother are now taking less of your time.
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Mary Brown
{K:71879} 9/20/2005
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There were a lot of suggestions with your previous post from people who know a lot more about working with pictues than I do.
I really like this shot. The beautiful combination of greens look great. I really like your composition. Having mentioned the colours, I must say that your B&W version is really appealing, also with its crispness and contrasts.
MAry
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Riny Koopman
{K:19998} 8/27/2005
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I love how you gaught the whole scene and all of its beautiful details. Thank you so much for your generous commenting on my photo.
Have a nice week end.
Kind regards Riny
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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 8/25/2005
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Richard, I think you're telling me this isn't gonna make it. Well, I accept that... I did think there was a picture in there somewhere. Maybe a B&W of what Colin suggested? I'm not too unhappy with my own B&W effort. But Henri CB it is NOT!
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Richard Thornton
{K:26442} 8/24/2005
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This is a good illustration of the vines overrunning the hedge, if that's what you're after. As far as making it work as a picture only, I don't know if it could. The hedge is probably not an exciting subject for a graphic. IMO the 400 speed neg film is a liability in color and contrast. But, we all have our opinions, especially me. You will probably make a liar out of me and come up with the sexiest, most beautiful images of hedges the world has ever seen! Serves me right.
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Colin Cartwright
{K:15699} 8/24/2005
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Roger, I think a kinder crop would concentrate the viewer on the vine leaves. I've included this below. I've also increased the foliage, green and yellow saturation, and sharpened slightly.
Not sure if this is what you were asking for, in your "help", but hope you like it.
Colin
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Chris Spracklen
{K:32552} 8/23/2005
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How about a frame, Roger?  )
When all's said and done I think I prefer your B&W conversion with Audrey's crop!
Best regards, Chris
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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 8/22/2005
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Hi, Audrey. Yes, it was fun. The idea of a joint shoot really appeals to me. I shot rangefinders exclusively for years (they are far better for my beloved wide-angle lenses) and it is only fisheyes, telephotos and macros that keep me using an SLR... But by the time the weather cools I should have a 6 x 6cm SLR... a quite different tool again.
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Audrey Reid
{K:5872} 8/22/2005
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Something went funny - this looks soft and yuk! Oh well, we had fun didn't we Roger :)
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Audrey Reid
{K:5872} 8/22/2005
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Its all a matter of preference I guess, I much prefer your B&W version to the colour version. However, I've shaved off a bit at the top - sorry :(
When your weather cools a bit, I'll come and join you in a shoot day with my rangefinder.
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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 8/22/2005
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This is an emulation of Kodak Tri-X with a red filter. The latter made the best differentiation between the various shades of green.
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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 8/22/2005
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Audrey, I prepared a B&W version using my own preferred conversion plugin, but Usefilm didn't accept it... and I ran out of time. Any photographers among your family in Tokyo? I sadly miss my photographer friend who was posted to Shanghai! Now to try again with that B&W version.
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Audrey Reid
{K:5872} 8/22/2005
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Roger, did you mean to upload an image? Or were you meaning the plugin information? The plugin filter I have in mind is especially for converting colour to B&W. It gives much better control then the standard in Photoshop.
http://www.theimagingfactory.com/
You might find a free try download.
Your comment on the Japanese pink sky brought a smile :) And to answer a question you put to me awhile back....yes, I have family living in Tokyo, so I know a little bit :)
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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 8/22/2005
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Audrey, is this somethng like what you had in mind? I have Power Retouche plugins for better/easier control of B&W conversions and even so I had to do a bit of dodging and burning.
The skies look pink because they ARE pink. It's a feature of Japanese smog, and one of the penalties of living in Tokyo!
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Audrey Reid
{K:5872} 8/22/2005
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Roger, have you tried cropping even more off the top, and converting to a B&W image? Maybe quite a bit of selective levelling and burning involved, but well worth a try I think. If you haven't, try the free download of (theimagefactory), gives you better/easier control of B&W converts.
PS - Yes, strangely, your skies do come out pinkish, maybe someone with more film/tech knowhow could enlighten us on the whys, be interesting to know.
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