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Photographer  Dale Ann Cubbage {Karma:9755}
Project N/A Camera Model Nikon D70
Categories Children
Film Format
Portfolio Lens Nikon  28-105mm f/3.5-4.5D IF AF
Uploaded 4/21/2005 Film / Memory Type Lexar  1GB
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About Trying to get some input on black & white tones and which is more appealing. I want crisp clear bw's. Any suggestions or tips would be appreciated. Please see all three versions.
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Dale Ann Cubbage   {K:9755} 5/5/2005
Antonia, thank you so much for that critique and the time you spent on it. I am so glad for what you wrote, because it did explain to me what it was that people were seeing. I see now that part that the all white background played in the whole scenario. Someone had said they didn't care for the white background, now perhaps, I understand why. I really appreciate you taking time to study all three and give me your wonderful thoughts on it. I have learned a lot through the experiment. Mostly that the tones need to match the mood of the image itself. It's not necesarily about the tones you achieve, but the mood you create through them. Thanks to all who participated to help me on my journey of learning!

P.S. glad you liked my comment on "Chess," I think the coffee shop will love it, and should proudly display it in their store!!

da

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Antonia BauerleinSehnert   {K:30599} 5/5/2005
ooops! Correction. I thought I was in the "last post" when I wrote my comment so here is the way it should read given that we are in the "second" post. "....I notice that people seemed to enjoy the softness of THE LAST ONE, but the THIS post got the vote for being the most balanced in tone or rather including the best range...."

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Antonia BauerleinSehnert   {K:30599} 5/5/2005
Hi Dale! I've just spent some time in all three to mull over which was best. I've also read some of the comments. With all in mind, here's my take: I notice that people seemed to enjoy the softness of this one, but the second post got the vote for being the most balanced in tone or rather including the best range. I tend to agree with that thinking. How something appeals to the eye is also a function of the surroundings, and in this case the background is stark white. That means that all the weight is on the tones carried in the face, and that "pushes" the case for having a more full-bodied tonal range. Now if you had a different background that helped to round out your grayscale, it's possible that the softer image in your last upload of this would be preferred. Honestly, I like the mood of the softer one, but the punch of the second one. So there!

Thanks for your comment on "Chess." Your mention of "Americana" really hit a nerve. It propelled me to send a copy of the image to the coffee franchise where it was taken. I hadn't thought of it before that.

Warm regards,

Antonia

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Dale Ann Cubbage   {K:9755} 4/29/2005
Thank you very much Terry, I appreciate your input!

da

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Dale Ann Cubbage   {K:9755} 4/29/2005
Jan, thanks so much for those details. I will try and mess with it like you suggested. I just fell in love with those shots you did of that little girl, it really inspired me to work on my tones. I haven't had time to work on it since, but it's in my plans. I may need to ask you more questions later . . if you don't mind!

Thanks for the comment.

da

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Dale Ann Cubbage   {K:9755} 4/29/2005
Biliana, please see my previous comment on #3 for the explanation. You're correct, the left side is overexposed. My other comment explains why.

Thanks for looking and taking time to comment. I agree, this one was my favorite I think.

da

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Dale Ann Cubbage   {K:9755} 4/29/2005
Thank you very much Pat. I appreciate your comment.

da

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Dale Ann Cubbage   {K:9755} 4/22/2005
Thanks so much Kelly, I like all three too, they all have something I like!

da

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Dale Ann Cubbage   {K:9755} 4/22/2005
Thanks so much Gustavo!

da

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Terry S.   {K:3083} 4/21/2005
Hi Dale Ann. I prefer this one out of the 3. Very nice skin tones and clarity.

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Jan .   {K:8693} 4/21/2005
OMG...Dale Ann..now you've got me all embarrassed!;) Just logged on this morning and you filled my email box!! Love ya..promise to get to responding!

This is my favorite of the 3. Better contrast. Just be carefull not to blow too much to all black or all white. A good method to try is to layer 2 different versions on top of each other. The lower version will look fairly flat, but with good details in the light areas and the dark areas. Then, put on top of that a very high contrast version, that makes the skin pop. Adjust the contrast according to the skin tones you want. many of the whites may blowout, as do the shadows go to black, for this layer, but you're just concentrating on making the skin look good. Then add a mask to that layer, and mask out the blowouts, to recover the detail. You can also reduce the opacity of the top layer. Play around with it, till you like how it looks, then merge the two layers.

I've been using an action that I got from CC that produces the 2 layers for me to play with, but you could make them up on your own with channel mixer.

Hope this rambling helps...I think you're well on your way..this shot looks great. Just remember, there are many ways to skin a cat, and not all methods work for all images, you just gotta play with it!!

Cheers
Jan

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B:)liana    {K:30945} 4/21/2005
I just opened the whole 3 exemples dear Dale, and I have to say that here the face is more expressive and with better shadows and definition of the nose, cheeks and lips, but the left part of his line face is too overexposed here!
Kiss
Biliana

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Pat Fruen Pat Fruen   {K:12076} 4/21/2005
I like this one best. It seems to have stronger contrast. Great photo, btw.

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Kelly    {K:20268} 4/21/2005
umm i think this is the pick... although i really like all three, you could have anyone of them..... great work dale ann....
kel

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Gustavo Scheverin Gustavo Scheverin   {K:164501} 4/21/2005
Muy lindo!
Felicitaciones.

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