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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 12/14/2008
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Pfeew, dismay is the best expression for describing that, Stan! I must have looked like a fish out of the water. ;-) The sigh of relief afterward must have been heard within the next 50 miles. ;-)
I am really looking forward to see the results of your low temp shoots. I don't think that your Olympus will be affected either. Well, perhaps some unnoticeable differences due to increase of conductivity of the image capturing electronic parts at low temperatures. Anyway, I wish you much fun and many good findings, as also some good developing service for your images.
Cheers!
Nick
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Stan Hill
{K:35352} 12/13/2008
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Nick, great story about your T90. That is tough! I can only imagine your dismay as it was tumbling down the hill. I am going to try to take some ski shots with my T90 and Olympus this season. I think I will have better luck with film than digital with the temperatures involved. We will see. I am going to find a lab that I can use for developing my film and get a CD as well.
Be well, Stan
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 12/12/2008
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You are very welcome, Stan! It is such a fun to examine and re-examine all kinds of images with you and all the good guys here! It's much like dicovering more where one wouldn't expect it.
The temperature... I don't know. The specifications of films make it clear that deep temperatures conserve their qualiyt better for a longer time. Now, if there is some temperature that is so deep that a film could be damaged? I would say that if there is such a temperature then it lies in reall deep deep regions, namely where the elasticity starts getting "frozen". At such deep temperatures I would think of problems. But we are talking about at least -100, I guess.
On the other hand the camera also has its temperature specifications. And Olympus is also a good brand that you can really trust when it comes to such questions. I think, if they say ot works at -15C then it does. Consider also that the camear never really reaches the temperature of the surroundings simply because you either hold it or because you have it in some good bag near you.
BTW, again that girl, the T90. I accidentally dropped it once down the slopes in winter here in the mounts around Mt. Titlis. It fell in the snow, rolled some feet downward and came to stand near the lift station bellow, completely burried in snow. The problem was, I couldn't get down there by myself because it was a steep slope and the snow too deep. I had to wait until the lift came and get down to that place. Some hour late later I was able to find it again. It felt icy but it had no problems at all. It still worked like a charm immediately even after such a fall and such a cold shock. This is another reason why I trust that camera so much. It never has problems of any kind.
Cheers!
Nick
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Stan Hill
{K:35352} 12/11/2008
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Yes Nick, this works as well. This was a cool shot even being under exposed. Almost black and white with color film. I wondered if being approx. -15C had any effect on the films exposure as well. Something I wondered when I packed camera in my pack for the trip up the mountain. I like what you have done in your rework. Thanks for taking the time to play with it.
be well, Stan
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 12/11/2008
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Thanks a bunch for the original, Stan! While the edited image supplies much more atmosphere of "the distinct" or "the special" the original keeps the lower tones of the sound of reality. You know, mounts are silent. Except of course when a storm breaks out! ;-)
The original shot has something more grandious to me, since the tension between the real existing lighting and the "assumed" lighting (in my mind) generates a good source of eye-magnetism. It is light and at the same time shadow. The details are there, and still they hide their real look. Many times mounts do that. They don't care about their look to us. ;-)¨
I was also a bit stunning since almost the same kind of "moonlight" can be introduced by level adjustment and still be kept more in the realms of reality (attachment). Since my adjustments of levels were roughly spreaking equivalent to "stretching" the dynamics range into the lights, I assume that some little bit of more exposure would deliver the same result. This is to me the purpose of any retouching. To conclude for what could be done better at shooting time. (Kind of reverse engineering.)
Cheers!
Nick
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Stan Hill
{K:35352} 12/10/2008
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Gracias Gust@vo, a piece of heaven on earth. A favorite place of mine. A journey I take every year for skiing.
Be well my friend, Stan
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Gustavo Scheverin
{K:164501} 12/10/2008
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Fantástico paisaje.
Felicitaciones!
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Stan Hill
{K:35352} 12/10/2008
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Hi Nick, glad you got my process to see what I had done. I have no filters for my OM2 other than a UV to protect my lens. I am including the untouched under exposed original for your inspection for a comparison of what I achieved with my goofing around. I am just experimenting with all of the tools and what suits my eye. I am no artist either!! I just enjoy what I do.
Be well, Stan
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 12/9/2008
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Thanks a lot for the info, Stan!
I thought you meant a real glass filter mounted in front of your camera. You really managed to mimic the behavior of such a glass filter very well. So I know a bit more about the ingredients of PS and their reasonable usage.
About dodge and burn in PS, well I have also almost no idea, but most good people say that slight dodging and burning is the best. Of course one has to try out many different levels. Still I prefer to "dodge and burn" with the T90. It is ideal for that. Do you have a good book about it? You will forget about dodging and burning in PS then.
Anyway, it was good to let the light as strong as it is. It really works under the effects of that filter.
Cheers!
Nick
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Stan Hill
{K:35352} 12/9/2008
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Yes Nick I remember the filter. In the drop down menu bar on Photoshop CS2 I went to image. Then I went to adjustment. On the side menu I went down to Photo Filter. On that list I went to the LBB cooling filter at about 65%on the density and I checked the preserve luminance box. When I shot this I was shooting into the sun on an angle. The sun was shining through where it is lighter. I did not chose to burn that area in because I suck at dodge and burn.
Be well, Stan
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 12/8/2008
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It is indeed a grand view, Stan! The cooling filter indeed added that touch of a moonlight. Good idea! What exactly was that filter - do you remember?
Thanks a lot for the info on that area. Yep, that could have been the reason for that. In this case it was good to allow the light on that area to show all its intensity.
Cheers!
Nick
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Stan Hill
{K:35352} 12/3/2008
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Hi Nick, glad this one caught your eye. An old film shot from 12 years ago. Scanned from print. I think the area you are referring to had more light through the cloud cover. This was where the light was the strongest with the clouds not blocking the sun. I used a blue cooling filter to give it a look of moonlight. The mountains were in my face and looked so close. I was only a few Kilometers from them. This is one of my favorite places to ski because of this view. It is truly the Grand View.
Be well, stan
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 12/3/2008
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What I find so distinct here is the strength of the very limited color palette that allows the dark silhouettes to develop all their strong contrasts against that kind of "main coloring" of the whole landscape. It enhances the depth, the distance and the huge size of the scene, doesn't it?
The blueish-white snow on the front is such a good hint for "here and over there". It additionaly boosts the sense for the miles up to the peaks. And those monuts and peaks at the depth. They really preserve the majestic view but also let it look familiar and well known. I guess because the details and the many light nouances turned the mountains to solid objects. This is what I think about it. I can not only look at the mounts, I think I couls touch them too! So, now I have to ask you about your setting for getting such a subtle balance of lighting.
There is only some kind of seemingly pixelwise behavior on the rather sparse forest on snow on the left hill. What is that? Too much of contrast? Or is that only my impression?
Cheers!
Nick
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Stan Hill
{K:35352} 12/2/2008
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Thanks Jacques, just like the cooling filter with the light and snow. Gave it some pop. I appreciate the heads up.
Be well, stan
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jacques brisebois
{K:73883} 12/2/2008
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interesting tone... and so wonderful landscape, great capture.
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Stan Hill
{K:35352} 12/2/2008
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Thanks Paul, I am just happy to be shooting again. this whole new process is exciting to try and be learning. Just catching other photographers eyes and getting feedback is really helpful. Just looking at all the great images out there is a lesson in itself. Appreciate the help and positive attitude my friend.
Be well, Stan
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Stan Hill
{K:35352} 12/2/2008
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Thanks Harry, had the OM2 since early 80's, just lost most of the shots I had with it from the big burn. This is one I took in the late 90's on a back country ski trip. Great little camera and very clean glass.. Glad you liked my post on this.
Be well, Stan
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Wolf Zorrito
{K:78768} 12/1/2008
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Wow, bloody good film and camera Stan !
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The Pilgrim
{K:65001} 12/1/2008
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Well Im hoping black and white won't cost me to much. I do alot of inkjet printing as it is soooo.
Spending roughly 200 or so on ink and paper for that Im thinking film and chemicals can't be a hole lot worse but I really don't know. Just now will be getting my feet wet for the first time.
lol
Glad to hear out that healing brush working for you. Its a big help when you get to where you can fine tune the tools and get alittle better understanding of them. Every little thing Ive learn has pretty much been by trial and error or reading and getting lucky. lol Wish I could help you out more......I know about the x wife thing,
Gheezzzz Sorry to hear that you had to go through such an ordeal.....Best wishes my friend!
Paul
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Stan Hill
{K:35352} 12/1/2008
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Thanks Pilgrim, my former wife burnt all of my film and slides from the time I was 7 until I was 45 years old. Fortunately I still have a few I have taken since her departure. This was in some boxes I went through in my office this weekend so I scanned it and tried to clean it up a little. This was taken on top of the Grand Targee ski resort looking across to the Tetons. Good luck with the dark room. Be ready to fork out some dough for the chemicals. I looked at current prices and decided digital was my cup of tea. Used to do quite a bit in the darkroom back in the 60's-70's. When all of that was destroyed by Attila the hen my wind was knocked out of my sails. Thanks for the great comment, always appreciated. BTW, I figured out the healing brush thanks to your encouragement and rework of my "Time Out" image. have a great week.
be well, Stan
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The Pilgrim
{K:65001} 12/1/2008
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Very nice vista capture Stan.
Nice to see some film shots.
My film camera jammed on me so
I have to find another...I have
found a nice complete darkroom
and going to start printing some
black and whites soon. Looking for
ward to that! Keep up the good work!
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Stan Hill
{K:35352} 12/1/2008
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Thanks Ray, these are some of the most majestic mountains around here. I fell in live with these the first time I laid eyes upon them. This shot really caught the textures and folds of the land in the light.
Be well, Stan
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stingRay pt.4 .
{K:250401} 12/1/2008
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Magical colour tones to this beautifully composed landscape study with it's immense depth Stan. Wonderful detailing and a real pleasure to view. Cheers......Ray
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Stan Hill
{K:35352} 12/1/2008
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Thanks Dave, This was wonderful night in the mountains. Cold but very beautiful. So glad you like what I saw as well.
Be well, Stan
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Stan Hill
{K:35352} 12/1/2008
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Thanks Harry, I had cropped bottom and top a little. I like your suggestion and will give it a try as well. Left the foreground because of the animal tracks on left front of image. Kind of hard to see but liked the signs of life even in winter. I used a cooling filter to give it some pizzaz. glad you liked it.
Be well,Stan
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Stan Hill
{K:35352} 12/1/2008
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Thanks Elias, glad you liked it. I am blessed to be in an area that this kind of beauty is so near by. I live about 2 hours from here.
Be well, Stan
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Dave Stacey
{K:150877} 12/1/2008
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Very nicely composed, Stan, and I like the toning!
Dave.
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H L
{K:11377} 12/1/2008
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Reminds me a scene from, Tim Burton’s Corpse Bride :) this is a great compliment :)One of my faver directors!!!!
Harry
PS: ; Stan,my advice you might consider to crop from the top blue line down ,also you can leave the diagonal shape alone …or you can cropped to the edge that meets your left side of your frame. If that ok with you. Try!
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Elias Monges
{K:6238} 12/1/2008
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beautiful capture....like you said it is Gods back yard..congrat
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Stan Hill
{K:35352} 12/1/2008
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An old film image from a back pack winter trip. Back country skiing and moonlight. This is Gods back yard!! Thanks so much Howie.
Be well, Stan
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Howie Mudge
{K:27933} 12/1/2008
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I really love the colours to this capture, well done :) Lovely view.
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