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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 11/11/2004
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John, a decade or so ago, before Japan's economic bubble burst, you would have been right. But there's much less money around for prestige products these days. This businessman probably thinks that what he slaps on his back for the daily commute is best bought as cheaply as possible... and who cares what it looks like?
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John Bohner
{K:8368} 11/9/2004
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Roger - it is interesting what WE take away from an image versus what the maker intends. What I found interesting here is the back packs. I think there is a product market there for you. The business man is carrying a kids/garish pack. Perhaps you could market a more posh, suit like back pack for business types (with an appropriate logo in English of course. Yep, mobile phones, you're killing privacy here fella! - JB
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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 11/9/2004
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Yep, Richard. My "stealth" camera. I'm waiting to capture the entire row of passengers on the opposite seats all intensely focused on their mobile phones. They are used for E-mail (very extensively) and for games. Their use as phones is banned on public transport, but the ban is observed more in the breach. Such a row should be almost as much fun as a row all asleep (I've taken several of those, two on show at Usefilm...).
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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 11/9/2004
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Hugo, I was running out of memory, so dropped back to 640 x 480 basic resolution, "normal" quality (i.e., high compression), as I recall. So this is definitely worst-case image quality. Still holds up fairly well--my "road down" from the bridge shows the optimum quality you can expect. Beats a Holga, the camera I love to hate, anyway! Expect more of these, with SLIGHTLY better image quality. Can't promise much better pictures, though. They depend on the human element. {embarassed grin) What I need is an LED that blinks when I should press the shutter!
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Roger Williams
{K:86139} 11/9/2004
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You may be right, Chris. I'm still experimenting with the settings. 1024 x 768 in "super fine" mode seems to give the best results, and cropping often cuts it down to 800 pixels, fine for Usefilm without resizing. 640 x 480 doesn't quite hack it. A D70 it is NOT.
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Richard Thornton
{K:26442} 11/8/2004
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No, they don't look alike to me, but they DO have the same alienationa and boredom common to the people of all industrialized countries. I guess your phone is not noticed the way a Voigtlander or Leica would be.
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Hugo de Wolf
{K:185110} 11/8/2004
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Hi Roger, Finally! And a double Finally!
Finally 1: This is what I think a phone camera is best suited for.... The candid type of shots. Metro / subway photos are one of my favourite themes, and this one is no exception.... It does take some guts to "snap away", but I think the result is well worth it. Very good capture!
Finally 2: The quality of this shot is (although quite decent) not in the same league as a "real" digital camera, let alone a DSLR... For a moment, you had me worried... Naturally, the lighting situation in a subway / metro is quite difficult under any circumstances, but I do think it shows in this one. Not sure why, though. Maybe the sharpening, or the lack of details and contrasts in some areas, or the gradient film that seems to be over this image, but there's something that gives it away....
Either way, still a very good shot.... That's what I call SURPRISING....;o) Just kidding, of course...
Cheers,
Hugo
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Chris Spracklen
{K:32552} 11/8/2004
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A little 'rough around the edges', Roger ~ signs of jpeg compression, perhaps? Interesting shot and 'about' though. Best regards, Chris
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Ahmet Baki Kocaballi
{K:13618} 11/8/2004
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Hi Roger, very nice metro capture! they look very interesting with their bags on their bosom..
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The Armed Eye
{K:3563} 11/8/2004
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Well, that's a good place for the phone cam, again surprised about the all-over quality !
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