I was trying to get the overall geometry rather than details of the individual parts for giving it a more "sketchy" look. I think that it only partially succeeded. So what could be done for making it look almost only "sketchy"? Any comments would be very welcome.
Well, the soft focus does also that distortion of shaoes and mixing of colors and zones, Aziz. Just turn the lens completely out of focus and look at the diffusion of contours into each other.
Post-processing is not bad by itself. It is a cheap excuse when the image was not successful in the sense of what ine wanted to do. It is accepting that one was not able to do the wished thing and camouflages failure with "artistic creation", etc. Or else, as already said, take a guitar in your hands and just hit the strings adding 3000 effects after that, and say that the resulting sound-salad is "arts".
The software in the camera is something *completely* different than the additional imaging software applied on failures. The one is the electronic storage of what the optics of the camera bring onto the CCD - it is just the analogon of "storage" on film. The other is the *alteration* of what was stored on CCD. And if what was stired in CCD was nit what we wnated, then there is only one thing to do. Delete the image and try again! But not "saving" each and every failure and transforming it to "arts". This is not arts - this is a lie!
The parallel of using pre-written software instead of writing new programs is the other way around. You don't use pre-written software for camouflaging some wrong design of a bridge into a right one. You re-design the whole bridge, or else it will crash. And further than this, you need to know physics and mathematics in order to design a good bridge with the pre-written woftware. You don't use it "just like that". So, the knowledge of the basic things *is* necessary, and *this* is the parallel to the knowledge of photography, optics and the like. In other wirds, anybody can take the same pre-written engineering software and do some nonsese with it, but only the engineer will make a bridge with it.
Dear Nick I knew your idea about postwork and filters. I really respect and appreciate your opinion. In order to get a result similar to median filter , you should find another way rather than unfocusing, for the result of median filter is distortion of shapes and mixing colors and zones. ... About pure photography , using digital cameras means application of some built in softwares . You've indicated a good example of playing guitar. I'm agree with you. But I think you are also agree with me that nowadays we do not need to write computer programs in Fortran or Pascal to solve engineering problems but we do use pre-written softwares to save time and concentrate on other things. .. This was only an example does not mean any disagreement with what you've insisted in. So many thanks Health and Happiness Aziz
Maybe I am wring too, Bubai, but still I try to decipher your comment.
You wrote: "interesting capture nice tray" And I have to ask myself... Tray? What tray? Any hints about that? :-/
You wrote: "last curve is mixed it has been sharped" So... which is the "last" curve? Could you please mark it up and attach the marked up image for me? And what do you mean, saying that it is "mixed"? So you mean that it was pasted in the image afterwards? (It was in the floor like all the other things.) Or do you perhaps mean that it looks anyway different that the rest? :-/
Further on you wrote: "it has been sharped thn the pic shown" So, do you mean that I sharpened the "curve" selectively? And if so, again, which one? Nevertheless the image is the original. Anything you see was there and still is there in exactly the same manner as it was captured by the very settings I used. I don't take images in soft focus in order to sharpen some special area afterwards.
And then you wrote: "another nice tone nd the snap is more interesting" which I must guess means that some additional color would make it more interesting? :-/
Sorry Bubai, I really have to try hard to guess what you might mean...
Thanks a lot for the nice comment and the idea, Aziz!
Nice to see your attachmeet of course, but when I am able to do the same by just turning my lens completely out of focus, then... Then the following:
We admit by using all that overload of filters that our wish to capture something, as we really wished to capture it, was a failure! (So, my failure here, if any, was that I didn't turn my lens completely out of focus, and that's all! Period! And no filtering excuses for me.) It wasn't what we had in mind, or else no need for afterward "filtering" would be needed. Even if the result of filtering and tweaking looks just great, it is a result that was introduced not by shooting but by cheating. And I am never going to sit and do as if some cheap "median" (or anything else too) was my intention. For it wasn't!
Don't get me wrong here, I am not criticizing your version at all. Actually from many points of view I find it much better than my original. It is only that camouflaging my failures to "great images" by filtering is simply too cheap for me. I don't do that. Or, in other words, when I play the electric guitar I don't want to have 3000 sound shapers that cover my mistakes any make my sound "perfect". If there is perfection... I have to get it by my own fingers squeezing out the very last drops of music out of my strings.
So the editing you did just tells me, if anything at all, that I could also turn my lens completely out of focus. It is for me a great help for reverse engineering in photography, but not as a way to present my failures as "great arts" by cheaply tweaking around the sliders of some imaging software. I could also use 36546 other filtering ways to present "arts" here but for photography it would only mean stagnation.
Don't present me salvaging filter works expecting me to say anything else about them. You just find yet another distortion and propose it for "photography". Do you know how many them are around? Millions! And everybody of them proposes yet another "artistic" filter, and still photography doesn't even have a tired cold smile for that. Sorry, this is the truth, Aziz.
Camera and lens is photography for it has to do with human fingers! ;-)
interesting capture nice tray bt last curve is mixed it has been sharped thn the pic shown another nice tone nd the snap is more interesting. may be i m worng.(thx ur comment help me lot now i try to know wnt to know wht is photography nd how to do this. thx again .) regards bubai.
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