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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 4/4/2007
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Aha! Another person addicted to history - and for good reason. Good for him! Sounds like a great idea for cataloging! ;)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 4/4/2007
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Thanks James! :)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 4/4/2007
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EXACTLY Annemette . . . uncleaned coins!!! It would cost more to make a fake, uncleaned coin than it was worth to sell. I bought mine from a private seller, but he told me that it wasn't likely anybody would go through any effort since there would be no payoff. There are, literally, millions of coins made from that era . . . check out http://esty.ancients.info/numis/index.html for more info for beginners. Anyway, the intro cost is almost nothing. :) A quick peek at e-bay shows countless sales offerings . . . just be sure to check for a feedback rating of 99-100%.....
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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vanessa shakesheff
{K:68840} 4/4/2007
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Iam not going to show my ex husband these shots ..he is a archeologist and as a huge collection ..he will be asking me to try taking pictures like this of his collection..i don,t seem to have time to breath these days ..like the capture of the textures between new and old ..lovely presentation..nessa
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James Cook
{K:38068} 4/3/2007
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Good luck.
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Annemette Rosenborg Eriksen
{K:55244} 4/3/2007
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Thank you for the interesting info, Doyle. The reason why I was surprised is that in Denmark weīre not allowed to keep such findings. They go to the national museum.
I suppose that with the great amount of coins that has been found from the Roman Empire archaeologists have collected and saved a certain amount and the rest is up to people to locate and keep or sell.
I just wonder how one can avoid to get fakes. As far as I can understand itīs better buying the ones that havenīt yet been cleaned and restored.
Do you have a link to the place where you have bought the coins?
Take care and thank for the info, Doyle!
Annemette
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Shirley D. Cross-Taylor
{K:174193} 4/2/2007
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You're welcome, Doyle!:):):)
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 4/2/2007
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Thanks Dear Marian . . . ancient Greek coins may be next on my list!! :)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Marian Man
{K:80636} 4/2/2007
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another excellent work by you dear Doyle!!! I leave the technicalities for the experts :)
the contrast between the new dimes and the old Roman coins just great!!!!!!
all the best
MArian
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 4/2/2007
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Annemette:
The first step indeed is to acquire some. Ancient coins are those older than medieval times and some of the most plentiful are from the Byzantine Empire. Uncleaned coins can be purchased singly or in lots of ten to a thousand or more (even online). For my first venture into this form of historical coin collecting, I thought it best to start small with four to ten coins. You can still buy them and they run about a dollar each for these bits of antiquity. But honestly, you can expect they will be mostly small and made of bronze. Most uncleaned coins offered for sale will have been gone over with a metal detector to winnow-out the gold and silver ones. But I wasn't trying to score riches in metal as much as I wanted a lot of the fun in this hobby which to me is scrapping off centuries of dirt and corrosion to catch a glimpse of a laureate profile or Latin inscription.
When the coins arrive, they are more or less disc-shaped and sound metallic when jiggled. They are covered with dirt or worse. My goal is to clean them enough to see if I can identify the coins or worn slugs of ancient metal. Perfect, uncirculated ancient coins are very rare and unlikely to turn up in odd lots of uncleaned coins. Since these coins were often hand made with a hammer and press-molded onto the blank metal disc, even new some were not perfect. The standards applied to ancient coins make allowances for the centuries they have been in existence, squirreled away in usually damp and dirty hiding places.
Myself . . . It's not a business or a treasure hunt, except for the thrill of identifying a coin and the era it came from . . . and taking a moment to imagine the sweep of history that comes with each.
They are far more common than most people assume . . . but to get good quality reasonably . . . and avoid fakes . . . I prefer to clean my own. Patina cannot easily be faked.
Thanks for commenting . . . . :)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Annemette Rosenborg Eriksen
{K:55244} 4/2/2007
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Dear Doyle
What fascinates me the most is how you got a hold of these old Roman coins?? I remember an ancient place in Turkey where a guy wanted me to buy ancient coins, and he was so angry with me when I refused to do so. Had they been real I would have been very interested.
Very fascinating photos! Good tones and framing, I would personally have liked greater clarity, but the blur can represent the past.
Take care
Annemette
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 4/2/2007
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Thanks Marcus . . . much appreciated!! :)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 4/2/2007
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Thanks Shirley. Oreos, huh? Perhaps some of the commenters need to eat?? Heh heh. ;)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 4/2/2007
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PS: Size doesn't matter???? Who knew? :P
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 4/2/2007
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Thanks Onie. I'm usually awed by the coins once they're identified. Greek coins too.
Because we can narrow the time frame . . . in some cases we even know why they were minted and who intially received them. For example, a special minting might be made by Caesar to pay his Roman Centurians after major military conflicts . . . . and I've always been fascinated with history. To be able to hold in my hand a coin made 212 years before Jesus Christ walked the Earth (or, to non-believers, before he is assumed to have done so by many). . . wow. And imagining what MIGHT have been in the life of the coin . . . too cool.
Marny agrees about the depth because, I suspect, like you, she wants to see the coin. I specifically chose this to present the metal for the RAW material project to emphasize the metal the coins were made from rather than the coins themselves.
Thanks for commenting Onie!! ;)
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Doyle D. Chastain
{K:101119} 4/2/2007
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Thanks Bobot . . . the wife agrees with you but I wanted here to emphasize the metal itself, not so much the coin made from it! Always nice to hear from you!
Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~
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Marcus Armani
{K:36599} 4/2/2007
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well i didnt think they were oreos, but i love the contrast from the older coins to the new dimes, I guess in a couple of thousand years the below will look like the top:)what does it take to get an award in this project? Insert here!
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Shirley D. Cross-Taylor
{K:174193} 4/2/2007
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I also thought they were Oreos from the thumb.;) Another interesting set of shots, Doyle.:)
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Leonie Fitzpatrick
{K:40551} 4/2/2007
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All that history Doyle...:) The hands that have held them...Were they saved, or spent out of necessity as soon as earned... Where did they travel...:)
Such a simple item that causes delight or grief, depending on how much or how little, the individuals need is...
Agree with the DoF comment from gentleman above... more visual info. of such an interesting subject matter would be wonderful... :) The about is terrific thank you Sir... ~~GRIN~~
Not saying anything about size LOL 'cause size doesn't matter... ~~GRIN~~
Extra nice Sir...:)
Onie...
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1301307 60
{K:44058} 4/2/2007
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from the thumbnail, I thought they were oreos... : ) very interesting illustration of a process. I think what is critical here is the focus since you are in the macro state already, maybe a greater depth of field IMO. interesting About Doyle... I learned alot, cheers!
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