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  Photography Forum: Digital Photography Q&A Forum: 
  Q. Image sharpening - have the goalposts moved?
AJ Miller
Asked by AJ Miller   Donor  (K=49168) on 1/4/2009 
I'd like to start a discussion about image sharpening. Please do join in...

Until recently I thought I had the sharpening thing straight. I turned sharpening off everywhere I could - in my camera, in my processing software, uploading to UF. I was shooting RAW and would store any processed images as unsharpened PSDs or possibly JPGs. Then, whenever I used an image, I would adjust the size for the particular usage (printing, uploading to UF, sending by email etc) and the final step before saving would be sharpening. The only exception to this was that if I was adding a frame, as I do to images I upload to UF, I would do this after sharpening. This was the procedure that had been recommended to me by various sources including people on UF. It was clearly stated:

- sharpening should always be the final step!

And I would examine the final result carefully to make sure no unintended halos or harsh edges had occurred.

But suddenly it seems that things have become more complex. I have recently switched to using Lightroom for managing and processing my RAW images (great stuff - it's based on RawShooter that I used to use and has taken the RawShooter concept many steps further). Lightroom does not modify RAW files but saves any post-processing and editing separately. It includes sharpening tools - which I suppose should be used if you are going to print directly from Lightroom. But sharpening is not turned off by default. And if you are going to export to PSD or JPG, then the export procedure gives another opportunity to sharpen. Is there not a risk of duplication here, potentially resulting in over-sharpening?

If the PSD / JPG is going to be further processed, even if only (or especially if) to resize the image, presumably no sharpening should be done in Lightroom or on exporting from Lightroom?

And there's a further complication. I have started uploading a few images to another site where they can be viewed and from where prints can be ordered. The site requests files at the highest possible quality ie. sharpening at the Lightroom output stage. Fine for printing, but is this best for onscreen viewing? And what happens when a print is made? Does the printer check / adjust the sharpening? OK, I know that depends on the individual circumstance but it's another thought in my mind.

If it is still true that sharpening should be the final step, is there not a problem with Lightroom? Sharpening is introduced in the "Develop" module, after which images can be saved, printed, uploaded to the web etc. But this implies that sharpening is done before resizing.

Any thoughts?

AJ


    


Jan Hoffman
 Jan Hoffman   (K=39467) - Comment Date 1/5/2009
AJ -- I use Lightroom 2.0 and have no issues with over-sharpening.
I use the develop module for visual sharpening and then control any additional sharpening based on output type. Web, export, and print have additional sharpening based on the nature of the output and the target size and media type. Sometimes, for greater effect I sharpen in CS PS4 but keep in mind that sharpening in CS4 is done differently and operates on the pixels; generally a better option only if you need more edge sharpening. At least that is my view of it.
I like the export function of CS4 better than that of Lightroom and prefer to use that function instead of exporting in Lightroom, if the target is a web upload like USEFILM or FLICKR.
For sharing a large quantity of pictures, like uploading to a personal web gallery or burning a CD to be given to someone else I use Lightroom.
As for sharpening before or after resizing, this is a rule that does apply to CS3 or CS4 but NOT Lightroom -- that is because the output sharpening of Lightroom is at the same time the resizing occurs and does not adversely effect the pixel quality at multiple stages.
To summarize:
1. Use LR Develop module for moderate sharpening (viewed at 100%) to please the eye when in LR;
2. Use output sharpening in LR based on experience to avoid loss of sharpening depending target size and target medium.
Alternately use CS3 or CS4 for more radical sharpening using a sharpening filter or where sharpening needs to be coupled with layers and/or masks (as the last step).
Hope this helps.......
--Best wishes and a Happy New Year
--Jan




AJ Miller
 AJ Miller  Donor  (K=49168) - Comment Date 1/5/2009
Hi Jan!

Happy New Year! And thanks for coming back on this one. All useful points which, I think, suggest that I'm not actually doing anything wrong at present. But I can see that I'm going to have to experiment a little more before I can be sure I've got a stable workflow - as you say under (2): "based on experience..."

AJ




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