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  Photography Forum: Photography Help Forum: 
  Q. Lens format (help the newbie)

Asked by Karen L. Chambers    (K=277) on 8/13/2002 
I want to take some promo pictures for my roomate. She's a guitar player looking for a new band. So since Im trying to learn to take photo's she's going to let me shoot her. I just want to know what lens if I were to purchase a new lens what would get me the best results. She will be posing with one or two guitars and I want to make sure I get everthing in the picture. The Camera Im using is just a beginger camera Canon Rebel X and it has the standard lens 35-80mm that comes with the camera. I did just purchase a 100-300mm lens for when I shoot her live but dont know if that will give me the results that Im looking for.
Ive been looking through the photos here for some hints as to how some people have done certain shots .
Would I want to get a wide angle lens or would something like a 28mm, 50mm do what I want??????
Please HELP!!!


    



 Steve Kompier  Donor  (K=4629) - Comment Date 8/13/2002
Hi Karen,

The lenses that you have are all that you need to shoot your roomate. You'll find that the 35-80 zoom will be perfect. Many people consider 80mm to be ideal for portraits. I've also see nice portraits using a wide angle.

Everything will fit in the frame using any lens, the issue is how far from the subject you'll have to be to accomplish it.

Others will opine, I'm sure. I say, just load film and shoot away. You'll be surprised at what develops!





 David Goldfarb   (K=7611) - Comment Date 8/13/2002
I'm with Steve. You've got plenty to start with. When you need something else, you'll know it.





 Nigel Smith   (K=3834) - Comment Date 8/13/2002
I agree with the others, your gear should be fine. What you need to work out is how you want to photograph her (or how she wants to be portrayed). Maybe search sites for likely poses and ask her (she might have ideas as she probably reads magazines with pictures in them). Then, if you find something you'd like to imitate (as opposed to replicate/copy!) and don't know how to go about it, point out the pic and someone here will be able to give you a few pointers to get you started.





 Jun Ma   (K=511) - Comment Date 8/13/2002
Lens of three focal lengths are often considered as portrait lens: 85mm, 100mm and 135mm. Your two zooms have all of them. Some people don't like zoom because of their smaller maximum aperatures. There will be a problem only if you try to shoot indoors, as my bold guess is that you don't have lighting equipments and a single flash is usually not good enough. But try a roll and see how it looks!





 Charles Morris   (K=5969) - Comment Date 8/14/2002
Think tripod and window light if possible. focal length is not an issue unless you want much tighter depth of field. in which case a fast 80 to 90mm lens would be a reasonable purchase, or since your kit lacks a 50, a 50 f1.8 would be inexpensive and very useful in other situations as well. but with what you already have, just get a decent tripod and if need be maybe some photoflood bulbs and simple clamp on lights.





 Karen L. Chambers   (K=277) - Comment Date 8/14/2002
I wanted to say thanks and show you my first attempt at doing this http://www.usefilm.com/showphoto.php?id=20857 i used 3 clamp house hold lights so I took the photo in PS and brought her into B&W and left her guitar yellow. The results came back with a real yellow tint to the over all pictures.....I didnt use any filters to correct it...since Im not sure if that was what a tungsten filter was for. Im going to purchase some white flood lights and see if I can get better lighting from that!!!!
Thanks for all the suggestions Im going to post some of the original pictures so you can see the effect I got from the lights...in hopes of more suggestions....let me know what you all think!!! Thanks!!!





 Karen L. Chambers   (K=277) - Comment Date 8/14/2002
Heres the thumbnail from the first attempt





 Karen L. Chambers   (K=277) - Comment Date 8/14/2002
Heres the thumbnail from the first attempt





 Karen L. Chambers   (K=277) - Comment Date 8/14/2002
Thats odd...I uploaded the thumb....I'll try once more








 Charles Morris   (K=5969) - Comment Date 8/14/2002
tungsten correction filters are bluish and are to counter the yellow-orange light from any incandescent light. officially photofloods are supposed to have a color temperature of 3400 kelvin. you can get photoflood bulbs with a blue coating that are supposed to put out light near 4800K. daylight is generally accepted to be 5000K. electronic flash units provide 5500K and they always seem a little cold or blue to me. If you have any friends that may have a color meter it is worth investigating other light sources. some varieties of fluorescent lights have more of a daylight balance now than they once had. If you have a work area that has fluorescent lights that use 4-foot tubes, call your local electric supply or lighting specialty shop and see if they have one of these General Electric bulbs: Sunshine lamp, or Chroma 50. both are designed to produce nar daylight appearance. it seems a litle freaky at first when you start using these because they seem to give off a blue light. that is a perception issue because we are so used to common incandescent lamps at around 2700K.





 Karen L. Chambers   (K=277) - Comment Date 8/16/2002
Thanks Charles....Ive heard from another person that I can get regular flood lights and they produce less of yellow cast...?? But Im not so sure about that....Im so cheap of a person ....hehe





 Charles Morris   (K=5969) - Comment Date 8/16/2002
you can get reveal bulbs. those have a neodymium doping agent in the glass that gives it a bluish tint and a higher "daylight index" the color temerature is still a bit warm though. there are also halogen lamps that are a bit closer to real life, but the blue photoflood bulbs, i think they carry an EBW designation are supposed to be adjusted to 4800K and those are good to work with for skintones. the downside to any incandescent continuous light source is that they get hot and they use a lot of current. 4 lampheads with photofloods can easily run up the electirc bill in a hurry. (they are typically 250 or 500 watts each.)




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