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Photographer Hugo de Wolf  Hugo de Wolf {Karma:185110}
Project #2 The Creative Flower Camera Model Pentax ME Super
Categories Others
Florals
Film Format
Portfolio Creative Photos
Lens Pentax 50mm with Macro converter
Uploaded 4/30/2004 Film / Memory Type Fuji  Superia
    ISO / Film Speed 400
Views 1461 Shutter 1/60
Favorites Aperture f/2.0
Critiques 32 Rating
4.72
/ 16 Ratings
Location City -  The Hague
State - 
Country - Netherlands   Netherlands
About I'm not particulary fond of floral photos, as I always think I've seen them all, but every now and then, there is a fresh and original floral shot between them, which I do find fantastic. As a tribute to those people on UF who can even make a floral tick, I found one of my first triptyches ever... ;o) I like to thank everybody for their constructive comments on the first one. I have feeling this one is slightly better than the previous one, but this is still a cry for help... Any advise, construcive critism and comment is appreciated! What needs to be done to make this flower "tick"?

Cheers,

Hugo
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There are 32 Comments in 1 Pages
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Marion Luijten   {K:6141} 7/4/2004
Hugo, having been away for a couple of months, I didn't see your floral triptych until now.
As an expert on floral pictures (and not the seed catalogue kind!) I must say that it's not your strongest kind of photography. The composition is quite good and the use of shallow DOF is something I like to do myself. But maybe you overdid it in these photo's. Most of all your lighting is not very good. I dont know if you used natural light or not, so it's difficult to advise you here. From what I read in your comments, I have the feeling you're not easily going to try it again. Well, we can't be good in everything, can we? (although we would like to!!!)

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Jani Salvataggio   {K:27283} 5/20/2004
Wonderful macro!!!!! great details!
PS: than you the kind comment!
regards
Jani

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JL E JL E   {K:9693} 5/17/2004
great!!!

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Kristina Kohut   {K:49990} 5/2/2004
Hi Hugo! Oh... I will not leave, just slow down a bit, so you wont get rid of me! ;-)

I have just looked at you three new flower photos, and I comment this one because even if they are so similar this one is the one that I for an unknown reason like most. You composed it really beautifully, with feeling! And the combination of colours is great! I only wish it was sharper and with less light.

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神 風 神 風   {K:10665} 5/2/2004
'2'

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John Hatziemmanouil   {K:40580} 5/2/2004
Hallo Hugo. This is an interesting close up however the focal length could be little bit better. Also the white looks exposed hardly. Need some impruvements, isn't it? However your try is good and surely you can make best photos!

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Nuno Murias Nuno Murias   {K:5323} 4/30/2004
Well i am just another one like you...i Floral pictures are normalie boring...Paula godard and you seem to found way of make interest to see a flower! When capture like this nature canbe spectacualr...I dont think its "overdigital" i think it stands out like fire works in the nite. Congrats i like it!

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Hugo de Wolf Hugo de Wolf   {K:185110} 4/30/2004
Thanks Carolyn, I though it ws time to explore some "new" territory....;o) I'll get better at it, hopefully, and with all the support, tips and advice I've received, I learned alot...

Cheers,

Hugo

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Kees and Carolyn    {K:15193} 4/30/2004
I think you do better photos in other areas. I'm sure this is much better than I could do, though, so I don't really want to be critical! :)
Carolyn

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WALT MESK   {K:10691} 4/30/2004
i can't to help you,my exsperience are the landscapes and snapshots and others,but not the macro.
i like it ugually!
walt.

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Nando Mondino   {K:14261} 4/30/2004
Great macro!

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Hugo de Wolf Hugo de Wolf   {K:185110} 4/30/2004
Hi Teunis, Ik zal de volgende serie in een natuurlijke omgeving fotograferen. Dank voor de tip!

Groeten,

Hugo

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Hugo de Wolf Hugo de Wolf   {K:185110} 4/30/2004
Hi Hermen, Thanks (again) for the comment and advice, very helpful. I'll try to work on the third one as far as the tonal range and I agree, #1 and #2 are overprocessed. The initial scan were my worst ever, so it required alot of work fixing it... I'll see what I can do to #3, and yes, I did focus on the stamen.

Cheers,

Hugo

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Hugo de Wolf Hugo de Wolf   {K:185110} 4/30/2004
Hi Tom, thanks for the advice! Tere's still something I can tweak for the third one....

Cheers,

Hugo

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Hugo de Wolf Hugo de Wolf   {K:185110} 4/30/2004
Thanks Stephen, that does help.... I'll keep it in mind the next time I try something like this! (that may take a while, though...;o) I appreciate your help!

Cheers,

Hugo

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Hugo de Wolf Hugo de Wolf   {K:185110} 4/30/2004
Hi Maria, Thanks for the encouragement. I'll definately continue with macro's. I took a few today, but no florals, this time....;o)

Cheers,

Hugo

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Teunis Haveman Teunis Haveman   {K:53426} 4/30/2004
Hugo, je hebt je er nogmaals aan gewaagd .Ik moet eerlijk zeggen dat ik deze beter vind dan de vorige. Komt wat gewoner over. Ik houd van bloemenfoto,s die in hun natuurlijke omgeving zijn vast gelegd
Teunis

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Hermen Pen Hermen Pen   {K:9168} 4/30/2004
Like you, I am not really into floral photography, but I'll do my best to criticise your exploration of this new field :) I think it is quite difficult to shoot flowers in an original way, that is, to take it beyond the 'seed catalog' image as Mary Bell put it. For sure, this one doesn't look as if it is coming from the seed catalog, so congratulations for that :) I think what this image (and the first one as well) is missing, is a good tonal quality: the contrast is very harsh, and the image looks over-processed. At first sight, the photo looks quite soft, as if everything is out of focus. This is not true, I think you focussed on the stamen, but due to the harsh contrast, there is only very little detail in this part. I think the composition of this one is better than the previous, I have the feeling that in image #1 the flower is too much down in the frame (also because it is pointing downwards). This one is better positioned.

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tom rumland tom rumland   {K:14874} 4/30/2004
hugo, there's nothing i can add that hasn't been said above. needs more focus and less saturation. i just noticed the saturation issue. it makes the scanner induced streaks more pronounced.

take care,
tom

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Gerhard Hoogterp   {K:4863} 4/30/2004
Qua kwaliteit is deze het zelfde als de vorige. Eigenlijk is alleen de compositie veranderd. Ik denk dat ik nr.1 daarin fraaier vind, maar dat kan ook best zijn omdat die beter aansluit bij mijn smaak van componeren..;) Voor de rest geldt eigenlijk het zelfde als bijde vorige foto.

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Stephen  Bowden   {K:64141} 4/30/2004
Hi Hugo,
Here is a first offering you advice on photography ! Only thing I can suggest in floral macros is to decide which part you want to be in focus. The petals, leaves, stamen as the close focus and minimal DOF can be critical. I hope this helps a little as I have learned so much from you already in return !

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Maria Luisa Vial   {K:36017} 4/30/2004
Hi Hugo...

This is much better than the first one... But I've seem better shots than this one... The one you uploaded for Lori the other day was awesome.... with that in mind... I am completely sure you can do Macros as well as your portraits and landscapes and you're reporting picture which all of them I love...

The first one and this one look a little bit out of focus, but nevertheless I still love the angle, and the background... these enhances the image...

Continue with macros!!!!!

Cheers,

Maria

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Roberto Arcari Farinetti Roberto Arcari Farinetti   {K:209486} 4/30/2004
nice one dear Hugo..
we thanke you.,, great Hugo.. nice is more balanced.
excellent!
roby

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Regina Rianelli   {K:24147} 4/30/2004
Amazing picture, Hugo: it 'tickles' me with it's scent... Focus doesn't make me dizzy at all here. I truly appreciate your work: 'Veel Success'!!! It takes careful steps to bestowe Macros. Ahhhh, loveable Den Hague and it's awesome MauritzHuis!
Bestest regards,
Regina

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Hugo de Wolf Hugo de Wolf   {K:185110} 4/30/2004
Hi Carmen, It's always a good experiment to pursue new subjects of photography, and I do find it a challenge. But the portraits and land / cityscapes will remain my main subject, don't worry....;o) I appreciate your comment,

Cheers,

Hugo

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Hugo de Wolf Hugo de Wolf   {K:185110} 4/30/2004
Hi Marta, thanks for your comment and encouragement. I rarely take photos of florals, and this is a new subject for me. Did macro before, and I know you need alot of patience. I usually go for a more reportive type of photo....;o)

Cheers,

Hugo

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Carmem A. Busko   {K:48785} 4/30/2004
Hugo, thank for you comment...
About these floral works, well, I do prefer your people portrait and landscape pictures. There, we can feel your soul.
Cheers,
Carmem

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Marta Pereyra   {K:5029} 4/30/2004
Hi Hugo,

I like very much this picture, the only problem it's the focus. I know that it's very dificult get a good focus in macro, it's a cuestion of patient.

Keep on! The flowers are wonderfull subjetc to take pictures!

Marta

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Hugo de Wolf Hugo de Wolf   {K:185110} 4/30/2004
Hi Mauro, thanks for your comment. I think the problem with the DOF is due to the excessive post processing, as Baki points out. I do tend to keep the DOF too shallow, and I'll keep that in mind for future attempts.

Cheers,

Hugo

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Hugo de Wolf Hugo de Wolf   {K:185110} 4/30/2004
Hi Baki, Thanks for your advise! Very useful. I'll keep it in mind when I attempt a next floral shoot! I know exactly what I mean. You are absolutely right about the post processing, that's completely overdone. The scan was as bad as the original one I posted with the first one of this triptych. I owe you one!

Cheers,

Hugo

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Ahmet Baki Kocaballi   {K:13618} 4/30/2004
Hi Hugo,
Generally i like this shot,especially i like the contrast between background darkness and whiteness of flower.I also like the diagonal branch at the background. On the other hand the shot seems a bit out of focus and seems a bit over processed or something "overdigital" so that I think it is more in the category of abstract or digital than the floral with its current state. Better lighting and focusing with less postprocessing might be helpful..
Regards
Baki

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M. Arief Budidarma M. Arief Budidarma   {K:139} 4/30/2004
yah, just nice...

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