Hi John, i guess the Starbucks was closed :-) No seriously i like the feel the black and white has given this photo. Really nice image, congrats. Re: my "Orange" photo. The frame was not zoomed, just "gausssian blur" in PS. Ilike the effect because you can, as you did, see the petals of the flower outside in the frame so to speak. Thanks for looking and for your comments, Regards from Switzerland, Neil