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Michele Carlsen
{K:146013} 5/16/2007
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Excellent and clever idea for the project dear Annemette !!! 7/7
Best wishes,
michele~
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James Cook
{K:38068} 5/16/2007
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Yeah, I dunno about that. I read your article. He is arguing against this guy:
http://www.prime-junta.net/pont/How_to/o_RAW_workflow/_RAW_workflow.html
They mention one another by name. I'm more inclined to agree with the arguments for RAW, but it really does come to how and what you are shooting. I can't imagine you're shooting anything where the speed of RAW would be an issue though.
Your camera will do combination RAW/jpg output, so you may consider that if the idea of converting lots of your pictures over to jpg seems too much. If you are using Adobe's Creative Suite then using Bridge and PS is nothing at all.
I would always encourage production with the highest data retention possible. Make recordings in the highest bitrate, shoot pictures at the highest resolution, etc. Later on you can down-convert. Much less interesting to try to upconvert.
Anyway, them's me thoughts.
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Annemette Rosenborg Eriksen
{K:55244} 5/15/2007
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THank you so very much for explaining your method to me, James- now let me explain to you how to make øllebrød. *LOL*
Sorry- this is serious business and precious help to get. I´ll try to do this as well and see what comes out of it because it really is frustrating not being able to read the info. I hope I can transfer the data/photos in this way not using the program for doing so.
Here is the link to the info I used about my new camera and setting it up and a discussion concerning Raw versus jpeg.
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/raw.htm
Thanks again, luxpoet
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James Cook
{K:38068} 5/15/2007
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The method I described will retain EXIF data. I spoke with a photographer friend of mine who shoots Nikon to confirm that there is no camera setting to turn off EXIF recording, so the original files should have it. I would suspect these other programs of stripping it out (many do).
In photoshop, if you choose 'Save As...' or 'Save' the EXIF will be retained (assuming the file format supports it). By contrast, if you choose 'Save For Web...' the EXIF will be stripped out. Conclusion: don't use 'Save For Web...'.
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James Cook
{K:38068} 5/15/2007
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Well, this is how I do it. And this works no matter which camera I shoot with (I have two friends with d70's and one with a d200).
I have a card reader:
http://www.sandisk.com/Products/Item(1145)-SDDR-89-SanDisk_ImageMate_12in1_ReaderWriter.aspx
I don't use that stupid little stand that comes with it, just the short cable. Nor do I use any of their software or the equally stupid button on top. This does happen to be the exact card reader that I use, but there are plenty others out there.
I put my memory card into the reader and attach the reader via USB to my computer (Mac or Windows). Once I do that, the OS recognizes the card as an external hard drive.
I create a folder where I am going to transfer the photographs (usually called something like 20070515_Ballard).
I open one window containing that new folder and another window containing the folder on the memory card wherein lie the image files.
I select all of the images (on Windows that's ctrl-a).
I drag and drop those into the new folder.
Be sure you MOVE them and not COPY them. If the plus sign is showing at your cursor then it's going to COPY them. To make the plus sign go away you have to hold down either the shift or the ctrl key (I forget which) and then it will MOVE them.
After that your card is empty and all your photographs are in the new folder.
Then you can open the files in any program you'd like, but I never open the originals. I make a copy into a folder called ForTheWeb and work from that copy.
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Annemette Rosenborg Eriksen
{K:55244} 5/15/2007
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Can I transfer photos directly from the camera to PS?
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Annemette Rosenborg Eriksen
{K:55244} 5/15/2007
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Sorry - poor English I guess. I meant loading the photos from the camera to the computer using the Picture Projectprogramme and then put the original photos in a map/file on my computer.
The original ones I´ve tried to open in PS after filing them unmanipulated and there´s no info.
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Annemette Rosenborg Eriksen
{K:55244} 5/15/2007
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I read an article that a man wrote about it which made sense. I´ll send it to you when I get around to it.
Øhm yes what I do is upload the originals to a map, then rework them in Picasa(sometimes manipulate, other times just resize them)and then save the resized photos in a new map. No data should be lost that way, I think, but when I go to look in file info there´s none.
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James Cook
{K:38068} 5/15/2007
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Sorry, didn't see both your comments.
What does it mean to say "upload the photos to a map"?
When you load the jpg to your computer, if you open it direcly in PS and choose File --> File Info and then select Camera Data 1 on the left none of those fields have information in them?
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James Cook
{K:38068} 5/15/2007
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??? RAW is way better. More manipulable and it's not a compressed file format (so you don't lose picture data). I'd shoot in RAW in any camera that was capable of it. What is it about RAW that caused you to turn to jpg's?
But regardless, shooting in jpg's should still allow you to retain your EXIF data. Tell me about your workflow. So you pull a jpg off your camera. I suppose you save the original and make a copy to manipulate and resize for posting? Then you do what you want done to it (manipulate it and resize it)? Then you save that work somehow? Tell me about those steps.
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Annemette Rosenborg Eriksen
{K:55244} 5/15/2007
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Oh yes and I shoot in jpg after reading about the rawformat in comparison to jpg.
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Annemette Rosenborg Eriksen
{K:55244} 5/15/2007
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I have tried to check for this info some times without any luck also for a month ago or so.
I usually upload the photos to a map and then I often resize them in Picasa because it´s so easily done. I´ve checked for the info before and after in PS without any luck. Strange.
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James Cook
{K:38068} 5/15/2007
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That's odd. I didn't realize it would be possible to turn that off. Is it like that for all of your shots? This could be a workflow issue. Are you shooting in RAW or jpg? How do you prepare shots for posting (make copies, resize, file formats)?
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Annemette Rosenborg Eriksen
{K:55244} 5/15/2007
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I did try that but no info came out:-(
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James Cook
{K:38068} 5/15/2007
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Well, all that information is in each photograph's EXIF data. You can get that through the Get Info command in PS. No need for remembering this stuff. Let the computer handle that part.
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Annemette Rosenborg Eriksen
{K:55244} 5/15/2007
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I believe it was 3 seconds - I tried doing it with 5, but too much light at that time even when readjusting aperture, focal length and ISO.
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James Cook
{K:38068} 5/15/2007
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Nice job keeping things in order. What was your shutter/f-stop on this one?
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Annemette Rosenborg Eriksen
{K:55244} 5/15/2007
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Thank you dear Iman:-)
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Annemette Rosenborg Eriksen
{K:55244} 5/15/2007
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Thanks, Virgis- playing a bit around with light:)
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Iman Fouad
{K:12295} 5/14/2007
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Magic light concentricity,creative abstract my friend,well done.
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Virgis Dromantas
{K:4212} 5/14/2007
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Nice capture of light trail, Annemette, beautiful abstract!
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Annemette Rosenborg Eriksen
{K:55244} 5/14/2007
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Oh yes? Well thank you for complimenting my silly idea for the project:-)
Take care
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Pietro Clarizia
{K:8241} 5/13/2007
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Hihih hiih !!
good idea!
good WoRk!!
ciao!
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