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Photographer Lana M  Lana M {Karma:811}
Project #57 Raw Materials Camera Model Nikon 4004
Categories Others
Film Format Film 35mm
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Lens Nikkor 70-210
Uploaded 3/21/2007 Film / Memory Type Kodak  Royal Gold RB
    ISO / Film Speed
Views 1813 Shutter
Favorites Aperture f/
Critiques 13 Rating
6.05
/ 4 Ratings
Location City -  Scottsdale
State -  ARIZONA
Country - United States   United States
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Mehul Chimthankar Mehul Chimthankar   {K:18655} 9/15/2008
Hi Lana,

Excellent shot, well composed

7++++++++++++++
Mehul

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Lana M Lana M   {K:811} 3/26/2007
Thanks for the info on Henri Cartier-Bresson. I have checked out a few sites already and his works are incredible.

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Patrick Crowther Patrick Crowther   {K:13393} 3/25/2007
I agree with you... sometimes people use 'rules are made to be broken' as an excuse for not having a clue how to compose a photograph in the first place. But the rule of thirds really isn't very difficult to master... what IS difficult is being able to recognise the best approach to composition for a particular subject. Which is why I would point anyone who wants to improve their photographs in the direction of Henri Cartier-Bresson... his approach to composition was always fresh and interesting, yet a 'classical' elegance was always in evidence.

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Doyle D. Chastain Doyle D. Chastain   {K:101119} 3/25/2007
There are exceptions for everything Patrick. Quite right. Still . . . mastering the basics would be best before delving into more advanced work, don't you think? I have found time and again the same 'rules were made to be broken' comment and, frankly, it ends up more often than not as an excuse for defending poorer quality work. So we're agreed that there are exceptions . . . and they should be explored after the basics have been mastered (IMO) is, possibly where we differ.

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

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Lana M Lana M   {K:811} 3/24/2007
The grid idea is fantastic. Thanks.

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Patrick Crowther Patrick Crowther   {K:13393} 3/24/2007
The rule of thirds definitely has its merits, but rules are there to be broken too! A composition is successful not because of the application of some geometrical law or principle, but because it conveys information in the most successful and appropriate way for a particular subject. Dead centre works for some images, totally off-centre for others, the rule of thirds in some instances. I find that working around a subject and experimenting with different approaches to composition is a great help. Sometimes it's just obvious what will suit a particular subject best... there really are no hard and fast rules. If there were, all photographs would end up looking the same and how boring that would be....

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Liz Wallis Liz Wallis   {K:26133} 3/24/2007
Hi Lana,
I do like the original composition that you chose, and I really like Doyle's suggestions...It really needs to be true b/w. Doyle has said pretty much everything though. You can download a rule of thirds grid, but it will be useless to you unless you have editing software. Failing that, you could get a piece of a projector sheet, and draw your own, to place over your screen..I used to do that before I got photoshop, and just had a basic program. it may sound silly but it does help...

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Lana M Lana M   {K:811} 3/23/2007
Thank you so much for all the direction. I look forward to trying out differnt camera settings to try and achieve these better results. I can see how the canges draw your eye around the whole phot instead of just resting in the center.

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Doyle D. Chastain Doyle D. Chastain   {K:101119} 3/22/2007
Note on this attachment how it affects the dynamics when the focal point is pulled off center and into an area that would be defined as a cross point on a tic-tac-toe board (rule of thirds). It is a guaranteed way to improve 99.9% of all photos. :)

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

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Rule of Thirds applied


Doyle D. Chastain Doyle D. Chastain   {K:101119} 3/22/2007
Imageopolis Featured Photo Critique Lana:

Just a couple of things come to mind on this shot. The black on black title leads me to point out that this has a blue hue throughout . . . not really black. True desaturation . . . or true B&W might add drama to the shot. Certainly work on the DOF mentioned as it will force the eye of the viewer to the subject. I have attached a very fleeting, quickly worked example for your consideration. In the example, I did an ersatz DOF adjustment which shows how the eye can be forced. This DOF adjustment CAN be done in camera by adjusting the aperture setting . . . using the shutter speed afterward to control exposure as needed. The light levels were also off a tad . . .

It's a good shot . . . and all I'm saying is that it COULD be better. While you'd like to get it all right in the camera . . . It is a rare photog that uses NO editing, since light levels and minor adjustments can dramatically increase the dynamics is virtually all shots. I sincerely doubt a prefessional or even good amateur exists who does not use something. Some things that can help are available free online.

This was a great idea and a challenging shoot which you did very well on. Keep in mind the rule of thirds and keep your focal point OUT of the center.

Nicely done.

Regards,
Doyle I <~~~~~

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For Your Consideration :)


Lana M Lana M   {K:811} 3/22/2007
Thanks for the advice. I am still playing around with DOF to see what results I get.

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Roberto Arcari Farinetti Roberto Arcari Farinetti   {K:209486} 3/22/2007
fine shot.. Lana.. I would have used so much DOF!!!
cheers
roby

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C.A.  Mikulice C.A.  Mikulice   {K:13300} 3/21/2007
Nice tones and composition. I like the balance of the shot, and the mix of shapes and textures.

Christine

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