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Maja Š
{K:17951} 10/11/2007
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excellent!! you have a really great galery!
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Randee Armstrong
{K:-820} 3/1/2007
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This reminds me of a David Lachapelle shot.
I quite like it :)
Well done!!!!
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ppdix
{K:17069} 1/13/2007
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Correction my friend. The original Q is Desmond Llewelyn, from the James Bond movies... He was around even before we were born.
;^)
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Habib Ishmail
{K:2602} 1/13/2007
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errr, i cant handle the fact there are other Q's out there in the world!
well, at least in know i'm the original Q from my hood!
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ppdix
{K:17069} 1/11/2007
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Thanx so much Q...
:)
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Q Zhang
{K:3946} 1/11/2007
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There's one thing that Pat does better than anyone else I've seen here. Johan, Andre, James, etc. will take one concept and work with it to perfection. Everyone of Pat's images is different. For instance I've seen your studio in dozens of images and it always looks different. That takes ENERGY, mental and physical !!! That is something you have to admire. I don't always like Pat's pictures or agree with his words, but everyone's got a right to express themselves. Cheers !
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Rob Graziano
{K:6678} 1/10/2007
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Good point on the Viper analogy. My mistake on your length in the photography world; didn't realize you were into graphic design...my apologies to you.
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ppdix
{K:17069} 1/9/2007
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The only was is up...
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Mark Julian
{K:36866} 1/9/2007
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You know what, I'm proud of the Peepster damn it - my man is TELLIN' IT TO US STRAIGHT FROM THE MOUNTAIN TOP and I can dig that... go, go, go Red Hot Peepster, Go, you tell 'em my man....
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Habib Ishmail
{K:2602} 1/9/2007
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actually Rob, i have only been taking photos for two months. no where did i say i have been taking photos for 11 years, this is what i said "i have been using Photoshop and other image authoring tools since 1995". i too am into multimedia, i have been composing electronic music since 1997 & editing video around the same era.
i have yet to meet anyone who can cross platforms like i can, my broad knowledge of computing allows me to jump straight into any genre of computing.
i doesn't really matter how much i assume i know, because at the end of the day, my photos are only of average quality, but at least i can compete with around 95% of UseFilm users because i use the tools at hand to the best of my ability.
you can't win a F1 race driving a Dodge Viper.
lol.
;)
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ppdix
{K:17069} 1/9/2007
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That's a little more than 2 bits... ;^)
Let me put my own bits into the bit pool here... HHEHEE
1. You don't know what this project is for or about
2. All the elements are placed there for a reason
3. Too many elements is what this is about, but then again you don't know what this is about.
4. I agree with the crop. I accidentally cropped the image at 600 pixels instead of 850 so it's missing the top. I didn't want to take it down and repost it since it already had comments.
5. This is not a new direction for me. It took me 20 minutes to do it. I use Photoshop since 1991 and computers since 1983 and everything I do is specifically what I like and I never, ever follow "rules".
6. Art is a matter of perception... I saw a guy on the Discovery channel that vomits on a canvas and sells the stuff as art. People pay a s**tload of money for it... Picasso broke every single possible rule. Bad perspectives, distorted faces, etc... Salvador Dali was the master of too busy... Many eclectic elements all over the place, melted, distorted, wrongly lit, etc... Frida Kahlo painted her own ugly self all over the place... Film critics may give a movie a D and then it goes to be the biggest blockbuster... Who's right and who's wrong? Nobody. If u are picky u can find something wrong on everything u see... From graphic design, to movies to photos to paintings or puke on a canvas... Like the OLD saying goes: "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder", and I couldn't agree more.
Creativity cannot be learnt. U got to have it in u. And it really can't be taught either... Why? Because, for example, what's "correct" in the graphic design world today, will be outdated tomorrow and literally useless... That's why creative people need to Create, not imitate... That's what text books do, help you follow rules to copy, imitate or implement something that has already been done. Where's the creativity in that?
Thanx for your comments, Rick. Greatly appreciated.
Pat
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Rob Graziano
{K:6678} 1/9/2007
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Rick,
You critiqued this how I should have; I messed up on all 3 rules. Your work is really great and lends credibility to your critique. I let myself get stupid about this one. Thanks for reminding me of the core rules...
rob
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Rob Graziano
{K:6678} 1/9/2007
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Well Habib...if you feel insulted then so be it. How can you say your learning curve is accelerated if you've been doing this for 11 years? Don't get me wrong, I admire Patricks work very much...just not that shot. Picasso's work was brilliant; maybe not to everyone's liking but brilliant nonetheless. BTW...Picasso revolutionized painting; hard to do that with photography these days...nearly impossible it think.
What do I respect more...A good photographer who makes no money and if they can do both...then that is the ultimate.
BTW...I have only been shooting for about two and half years even though I dabbled a bit for about a year when I was 22 with film but really had no idea what I was doing. So my point is that time doesn't have as much to do with as much as people think; it's just time. People certainly learn...I do everday. And if time has something to do with it...then you'd expect everyone whose been shooting for a long time to be absolutely brilliant and that just isn't the case is it?
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Rick Mccawley
{K:2878} 1/9/2007
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Just my two bits. I am a professor of graphic design and 30 years as a pro photographer. The following is a critique in the format it should be done. Rule one is if you find fault, suggest solutions. Rule two, no personal attacks. Rule three opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one, but don't be one when your trying to learn and help others learn from the discussion of art.
1. the upward angle of the model is a bit harsh as it empasizes her nose and puts acrease in her neck.
2. the posterized look of her skin looks like bad sunburn. Not attractive.
3. The flowers in the front and back would benifit fron a little digital selective focus. This would simplify the focus of the photo.
4. There are to many elements, and detail fighting for the viewers eyes.
5. the models face is to close to the top of the frame, combined with the eyes looking out of frame make it a poor composition.
The photo is a new direction for your work and one which I would like to commend you on. I think your kind of photography would greatly benifit from more of this kind of manipulation. If you would like to collaborate on a project, I woull consider it an honor.
cheers,
Rick
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Paul Lara
{K:88111} 1/9/2007
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As a pop-art poster, this succeeds, but for compositing, the lighting does not seem to be coming from the same angle. That sort of realism is given a pass since you've minimized the palette, though.
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ppdix
{K:17069} 1/9/2007
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No, this city's not big enough and the only recognition I care for is from my clients', who pay my bills...
Now u see how it feels when someone attacks your work. Of course it takes skill to do landscapes or cityscapes and I can appreciate the really good ones as well, but that is why I am not comfortable or capable of criticizing photos that are not my style. I am good at what I do, because this is what I do... I have done landscapes and cityscapes and people with more experience on that type of photo are going to be much better than me at them. But if I wanted to spend enough time trying, I could get it right as well.
Provided access to the location, a tripod, a decent camera and time, most of landscapes and cityscapes can be duplicated... Look at your own photo: http://www.usefilm.com/image/1215865.html and Peta's: http://www.usefilm.com/image/1134027.html Anyone there could have gotten similar results... I must say yours is much better, but all it takes is a tripod, a camera and a few seconds to kill... How many duplicate Golden Gates can u get? As many as people show up there to shoot it...
Now some of my work or Johan Sorensen, or Andre Brito, Mitchel Miller, Mimi Nikolova, Frank Wolf, Jacques Bagios, James Weber, ah... that is not as easy to duplicate and I admire that.
Cheers, baby
p
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Rob Graziano
{K:6678} 1/9/2007
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You bewilder me; you leave the site because people are taking your work which is horrible. Then you come back to the site, put up very good work but say I will see you next xmas. The shot you won the award for was/is fantastic and I always thought you didn't get the recognition you deserve from the critics. With that being said...did you ever think that perhaps you being in love with yourself had anything to do with it? You said in the comment above that taking landscape and night shots doesn't take any skill; do you actually believe that garbage? Because that's what it is! You can ask your models to do something again if you miss the moment; you can't ask Nature to strike a different pose or to ask an animal to do something again for you. You have to get it right when the moment comes along; you can never do it over and it will never be the same. You say a monkey with a polaroid can do it; then why can't everyone do it? Even people who've been trying for 20 years...are they dumber than monkies? I apologize for insulting your shot but it's not good and was directed to you alone. You have insulted almost everyone on here and in the world of landscape and nature photography with your silly comment. I guess people like Ansel Adams &
Thomas Mangelsen are just really good monkies? I guess it's a good thing that you live in a really big city...perhaps your ego has enough room...or does it.
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ppdix
{K:17069} 1/9/2007
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One more thing. I also respect a comment from someone that usually comments on my work. U haven't commented in months and u wait for the right moment to say something bad instead of commenting on what, according to UF and to other viewers, is a good photo: http://www.usefilm.com/Image.asp?ID=1238508 or others more "up my own standards"...
It's so much easier to trash than to praise someone's work... I don't respect that.
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ppdix
{K:17069} 1/9/2007
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hheheheh absolute crap! hahaha u crack me up, man!
Wait till i'm dead, my crap is gonna be worth a s**tload of money...
U are totally right, i've been using PS since 1991 and I still learn something new on it every day. U can have the best camera, the lights, the software, but if u don't have the eye or the creativity, u can't do sh*t with it...
Some people prefer the "safe" photography... Landscapes, 30 second exposures at night... Come on!. U can't mess it up like that... Mountains, cityscapes are always gonna be there, now and in 100 years. A monkey with a Polaroid can do it... Just set up a tripod and take 100 pictures until u get it right... Too easy, no skill... Working with people is so different and so much harder. People have feelings, they move, they are nervous, they think they are ugly... U can't afford to mess it up, u can't afford to do it again because u might not have the chance... That's why I love what I do. It's LIVE and ALIVE photography, and that's why people come to me, cause I nail that live moment, the 1/125th of a second moment that will never be repeated again and that I must get right...
Some people should lose their tripods, grab the camera and start capturing some real, alive memories...
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Habib Ishmail
{K:2602} 1/9/2007
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... i'm speechless, because somehow i feel insulted by a few of the posts here!
let me just say that ppdix's photos (work) have always been consistently perfect, no matter what the subject is, or what he is taking photos of.
i'm no professional photographer, i can admit that, but my learning curve is by far the most accelerated of that of any of my colleagues!
i have been using Photoshop and other image authoring tools since 1995, so at least that gives me some ground to base my comments on!
most would agree that the famous artist Picasso's work was rather childish, but at the end of the day, he made a lot of money, now the question is my friend, which do you admire more .... a professional photographer who's a businessman, or just a good photographer who makes no money?
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ppdix
{K:17069} 1/8/2007
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I respect someone who tells me my work sucks and they hate it, everybody's entitled to, but not someone who tells me I have to do something about it.
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Rob Graziano
{K:6678} 1/8/2007
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Definitely not my site...far from it. You're right...I shouldn't have suggested you take it down.; very poor form on my part and it was rude. It was never my intent to "bully" you....could I anyway? I don't think so...
Question for you...who do you respect more?
Someone who tells you what they think you want to hear or someone who has the courage to tell you how it is without any ulterior motives...
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ppdix
{K:17069} 1/8/2007
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I take honesty and critiques well but when someone "orders" me to take my work down that is plain rude and uncalled for. If u don't like it, say it, u are not forced to look at anything u don't want to, but u are NOT going to tell me I can't post whatever the f**k I want on a public forum. Public means public and u DON'T own this website. So go bully someone else!
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Rob Graziano
{K:6678} 1/8/2007
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Habib...I very much "get" what he trying to do. What I'm saying is that it's just not that good. It is far to busy or believe it not busy enough. I have never seen Patrick us this type elements before; I would have just expected his first public attempt to be up to the quality he's used to posting or to be open to a real critique. I can get as technical as everyone would like. People can learn a lot from Pat on his ability to shoot women; but he can learn from people on these type shots.
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Rob Graziano
{K:6678} 1/8/2007
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God forbid anyone actually be honest with you. Keep it on here, don't keep it on here; you're your own Daddy. But don't let anyone tell you this shot is good; the shot is too busy no matter how much it's blown up. I know you're not used to someone actually giving you a real critique...they're too busy drooling at the women you shoot. Your work is normally great; this is not at all. If all you ever want are compliments then don't post on a public forum or just look in a mirror.
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ppdix
{K:17069} 1/8/2007
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Just a bit...
;^)
Cheers
P
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ppdix
{K:17069} 1/8/2007
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20 minutes and yes, she is a special dame.
How are things in the Lebanon?
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ppdix
{K:17069} 1/8/2007
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Oh, please Daddy, can I keep it? I really, really want it! Pretty Please?
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Habib Ishmail
{K:2602} 1/8/2007
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Rob, i really don't think you understand this style of photo ... i have only ever seen a handful of photographers attempt this and by far it would have to be the best photo i have seen to date. the fact that we are viewing a scaled down version of the original doesn't do it any justice. i can see several effects that i have never seen ppdix use before, posterizing, although the main attraction (the lady) is highly contrasted, everything else is mildly opaque intentionally.
i could go on and on, but i'm starting to bore myself.
;)
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Habib Ishmail
{K:2602} 1/8/2007
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whoa, how much work did u put into this?
must be a special dame ....
;)
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Rob Graziano
{K:6678} 1/8/2007
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I was always told if you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all but this is so below your standards that I am surprised you put it up. Perhaps you don't want to hear that from me nor do you probably care but it sure would be nice if someone told you; this is bad and not, as I said before, on par with your talent. You should definitely take it down.
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Jim Budrakey
{K:24393} 1/8/2007
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Hey, that's different - a bit of PS perhaps?
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Leo Régnier Я£
{K:67696} 1/8/2007
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Diferente esse teu trabalho, mas muito bom!! Parabéns amigo!!
Leo
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