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Ron Browne
{K:1282} 11/21/2002
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Hi Chris,
No harm, no foul huh? Do unto others, Chris. The golden rule.
Personally I've done things like this, and will do them again. Only the most mean-spirited would ridicule this man, whatever his circumstances, and I know that was not your intention.
Obvious technical flaws aside, I find this gently humorous and at best a statement on certain absurdities of modern life. Compared to the nightly news, this is pretty tame.
Robert Frank would be proud.
You are to be applauded for even considering the question!
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Chris Whaley
{K:3847} 11/21/2002
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We actually got on this discussion earlier today in photo class...about whether to take the shot sneakily without regard to there opinion. Or ask politely. I did this quickly and my girlfriend grabbed my arm to pull me away from taking it. She felt the same way. I did feel a odd taking the shot because it is not a way I myself would want to be shot but at the time I thought it would be funny scince i have done the same thing(falling asleep). But i have mixed feelings to Jeff...but hope it's taken lightly as humor...maybe i should have made him less discernable. Thanks for taking the time to comment and discuss everyone:)
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heather martino
{K:3648} 11/21/2002
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I agree with marc. The first thing I thought was ah poor guy back from the nightshift! People fall asleep on public transport every day (me too sometimes) - it doesnt make me think they're idle, it makes me think they're tired. H:)
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Marc Robin
{K:3385} 11/21/2002
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Hi, I can see Jeff's point, but to me, this doesn't evoke the same unease. I see a poor guy (figuratively speaking) who's fallen asleep on the subway, and is going to miss his stop several times! After I looked at the surroundings a bit and realised where it was, it really made me chuckle. I've seen people exactly like this. I've always wanted to take a picture of them too!
Cheers, Marc
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Jeff Cable
{K:3599} 11/21/2002
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Hmmm... I dunno Chris. I spent 20 minutes considering this image. I felt some sort of unease with it that I cannot fully explain.
Technically speaking, I could ramble on about the tones that do not appear very black or white but seem firmly fixed in the grey area of the spectrum. I could comment on the tilt to the window although some may say it adds to the sense of feeling laid back. The intrusion of the seat in front of the subject could also be commented upon. It is however not my intention to comment about the technical considerations which I think merit some attention.
I was much more interested in pinning down the source of my discomfort. TK encapsulated it with his own succinct comment. I suppose I feel that the subject cannot defend himself against the image that makes him look as if he may be a bit idle or shiftless (or an unemployed person on welfare perhaps). Just my interpretation but the image appears to be a bit unkind to the subject, especially since he did not give his permission.
Perhaps if I had known that he did give his permission or even that he said..." please take my picture when I am asleep so that I can know what I look like" I might have felt differently. I wonder if (in retrospect) you could see how this image may have held your subject up to ridicule. What do you think? Your views would be much appreciated. 10 out of 10 for making me consider your picture in some depth.
Cheers!
Jeff
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Terrence Kent
{K:7023} 11/21/2002
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heheheh, when they're asleep its easy pickins
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