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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 10/27/2009
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Thanks a lot, Nick! It is not that I am "discouraged", though. I only see what I get without paying attention to any kind of hypes. Here the histogram will readily show that the basic colors (in CMYB space) are uniformly distributed over the range of dynamics but they are also quite low in amplitude. Which means to me that doing it manually I also lowered the strength of lights/shadows. So I must try to better my methods.
The program (Photomatrix) was less than satisfactory to me. The results were horrible, exactly because the were far overdone, which goes back to the fact that I don't know much about how to use the software. I examined a bit the online manual and most of the time the used nomenclature is ... well, let's say "not really exactly in photographic sense". ;-) So I'll have to be translating their "manuals" to photo language in order to understand what they mean.
Still, it is rather curiosity to see how this method works, than anything else to me. I am not a very big fan of any "compander" methods and this is what HDR seems to be doing. They should rather get some new steps towards technology that comes a bit closer to the (huge!) natural dynamic range. The analogous state of arts in audio technology, for example, is away ahead in this subject - and I don't mean the similar hypes there like dolby surround and other fairy tales but rather live music. ;-)
Cheers,
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 10/25/2009
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Nice and good thanks too, Nanda!
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Lagos
{K:2203} 10/25/2009
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Dear Nick,
I would encourage you to keep at it...the two challenges most people have with HDR is to overdo the program or get discouraged and give up too early....it took me a while to get the gist of it but once you do; HDR can be a valuable tool... it appears the newer developments of high dynamic range digital cameras will lessen the use of these programs but in the meantime HDR definiely fills a gap....
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 10/25/2009
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Thanks a lot Teresa!
Well, to me it is not really satisfactory, as I already said. It looks much like trying to compress reality's dynamic range into the limited range of available media. But of course much of that surely goes back to my own limited knowledge about HDR and the related techniques.
Anyway, experiment but experiment with sense and a conscious mind.
Cheers!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 10/23/2009
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And very nice thanks Cecilia!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 10/23/2009
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Thanks a lot, Nick!
Well, I tried "Photomatrix" first but it didn't really work for me, and s I decided to go manual. I used PSE for that. It was not "comfortable" at all but on the other hand I could try to get it as much near my own intention as possible. Still I am not really convined. It looks eather like compressing real world into the thin capabilities of my gear and so I miss too much...
Anyway, thanks a lot!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 10/23/2009
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Thanks a lot Alex!
Well to me it is not really what i would expect from the whole "brave new world" of HDR. I thought that the range of stops would be expanded in which there are still details to see. But I rather have the impression now that it is just replacing all possible extremes of shadows or highlights with some certain "local average" that appears on one of the used images, and so the extremely wide range of natural vision are actually compressed (in a controlled way) into the much more narrower range that our media can exploit.
It looks to me much like all those typical dolby systems, much like expanding the quiet and compressing the loud. It is not HDR itself what we hear then but rather some reasonable mappinf of the natural HDR onto the avialable... LDR of the media - be it a record or an image. More details are won in each and every range of loudness or light intensity but the kick of the difference between quiet and loud, or between darkness and highlight seems to suffer, doesn't it? So we may choose what best fits our intentions but real HDR would demand also better gear - or perhaps even gear that is not available yet.
Anyway, I stay in the parallels to music. I see now why live music ist impossible to press on media without such compromises. They are good things to have, that is, but the real concert is when the attack, the pleck on the strings comes up from 0 to 100 dbs in no time. And here I have the impression that the loud and quiet parts of the aggresice heavy staccato have been made too... soft.
Or perhaps also I still didn't get the idea behind HDR - that's also possible, ey? ;-) So let me examine it a bit more and let's see what it is and what it is good for.
Thanks again!
Nick
P.S.: As about "beautiful place"... all places are beautiful. One has only to study and accept their own beauty without any preoccupation about "what is beautiful". The most dusty road in the middle of industrial regions does have its own beauty too, if we only forget about the "monopoly of beauty" as presented to us by the narrow sighted hollywoodian Barbie world that accepts only one beauty: The beauty of conservativism and naive stupid ideas about "gardens", "paradises" and similar sugar coated dreams of eternaly adolescent boyses and girlies under romantic moonlights. ;-)
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Nanda Baba das
{K:78053} 10/23/2009
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Nice job, good color. Best wishes
Nanda
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Teresa Moore
{K:11063} 10/23/2009
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Very nice first try! I too am just getting started in HDR, I love it and can't wait to experiment with it more.
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 10/22/2009
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Thanks a lot Gustavo!
I am looking forward to see your HDR work, but as a small idea here: Could HDR work with the images that you do with the method of "drawing with light"? Perhaps instead of more or less exposure adjusted on the camera one could make some images and "draw" more or less with light on them? Just windering...
Cheers!
Nick
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cecilia tovini
{K:29423} 10/22/2009
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It is a town that I want to visit. Very nice picture.
Cecilia
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Nick Lagos
{K:2203} 10/22/2009
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Which HDR program did you use Nick....??? It's not a case of mistakes made ..but the common mistakes you avoided like "cooking" the skies like most novices do...(my first ones were a mess)..for a first attempt it's very good...you'll definitely get better the more you do...congrats
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Alex Fraser
{K:51} 10/22/2009
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Nice job, looks like a beautiful place. Turned out much better than my attempts at HDR. :/
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Gustavo Scheverin
{K:164501} 10/21/2009
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Hola mi querido amigo!, un gusto verte de nuevo, muy bien aquí por la ampliación del rango dinámico, es una técnica que tengo que explorar, seguiré tu ejemplo.
Estoy algo ocupado por estos días, pero no me olvido de los buenos amigos!
Un abrazo!
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