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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/29/2007
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Thanks a lot for the detailed info on printing, Andre! I suspected that color is a different story, but it's always good to have some additional information from people that have the own experiences with printing.
Nick
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/28/2007
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Hi Nick,
To answer your question on printing digital images and how they compare with a conventional photograph, I can tell you about my experience at least. I have a couple of fairly inexpensive Canon Pixma printers that I have used to print a few images on bubble jet photo paper. Mat, gloss and semi gloss. By far my best results have been with B&W and Sepia toned images. In fact it is very hard to tell the difference between the old conventional print and new one until you get very close to the image. This was a pleasant surprise for me. Of course I wasted a few sheets before I got the settings the way I wanted them. Of course, I have no idea how long those prints will last. Also, being bubble jet, they do not look good if you get them wet :)
Colour is a different story with my less than pro quality printer. I have had a few good results, but mostly they don't come out to my liking. I have heard that if you look for a photo processing company that uses the latest Fuji processing, that is as good as it gets.
Hope this helps.
Andre
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/27/2007
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Yes, and this exactly was also my choise, Andre. The darker one. Using the software of today can indeed be a blessing for simulating silver nitrate. I wonder if that would also look similar on printing.
Cheers,
Nick
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/25/2007
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Hi Nick, Yes, I actually prefer either one of these adjustments to the original posted image. I think I prefer the slightly darker version. (turn to b&w then adjust tonal range)
It really is amazing how much choice we have to create an image with today's software programs. They really do a great job of simulating manual silver nitrate photography.
Andre
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/22/2007
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Thanks a lot for this explanation, Andre! It sounds quite reasonable to me now - of course! All the noisy patterns are then turned to a grain-like look. you gave me the idea to turn it ot B&W but simply doing that was not as efficient for the image, as I expected. But turning it to B&W *and* adjusting the color levels worked fine for me.
Strange thing to me is that adjusting first and then turning to B&W gives a different result than doing that the other way around. I guess the reason is that the available "grain" gets altered when adjusting tonal ranges, since the contrast gets higher then. I post again an attachment with both results for a better comparison. I am more for the left one which was first turning to B&W and then adjusting the tonal range.
Also, this is another hint for me that simply turning an image to B&W in PS is not quite the same like real B&W film.
All the best and thanks again,
Nick
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/20/2007
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Hi Nick,
I think I like the one you posted better than the enhanced, adjusted version. I find that this kind of image suits B&W conversion quite well because what can be seen as colour "noise" when converted to B&W can appear as an attractive "grain" effect. I think that's why I prefer the posted version. I know it isn't exactly B&W, but the colour is much more subtle.
Andre
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/18/2007
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This is exactly what I think about the reflection, Andre. at shooting tome I was not even aware of it and then I see on the image that it is half. Oh well...
The mood and the grain I also find very attractive. I think that it can be addressed to the way the T70 reacted when underexposing using a rather narrow aperture but I am not sure about that. The T90 might do that too, so I'll have to try it out.
Anyway, normally I don't alter images with PS but for this one some friend from the local photo club told me that such photos can also change their mood drastically using color levels adhustments. I gave it a try and the result is really much different. It reminds me of some tales of mystery while the original is moody in the sense of winter and cold. What do you think?
Cheers,
Nickl
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/18/2007
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Thanks a lot for the nice comment and the generous rating, Vandy! If I only knew how such a coloring can be achieved with camera/lens in any case..
Cheers,
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/18/2007
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Thank you very very much, Peter!
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/18/2007
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Thanks a lot for the nice comment, Dave!
Well, I'll have to be more careful next time.
Cheers,
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/18/2007
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Muchas gracias por la muy buena observación, Gustavo!
Todo lo mejor,
Nick
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Nick Karagiaouroglou
{K:127263} 11/18/2007
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Thank you very much, Halil!
But why did you send me the link to that particular photo of yours? Any special reason? (Similarity or something?)
Going to you image now.
All the best,
Nick
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Andre Denis
{K:66407} 11/18/2007
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Hi Nick,
As Dave was saying, maybe the whole reflection, with a little room around it might be the thing that could improve this one. Otherwise, the mood and graininess are very attractive.
Andre
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Vandy Neculae
{K:7990} 11/16/2007
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Exceptional composition!
Great atmosphere!
7!
Vandi
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Peter De Rycke
{K:41212} 11/15/2007
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Beautiful shot into the fog .. Peter
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Dave Stacey
{K:150877} 11/14/2007
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A very atmospheric and moody image here, Nick! The whole reflection would have been nice, but it's still a good shot as it is.
Dave.
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Gustavo Scheverin
{K:164501} 11/14/2007
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Fantástica, un auténtico moody lanascape, la bruma le aporta un toque de belleza pero también de misterio.
Una gran foto!
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Halil Tolga AYVALI
{K:1081} 11/14/2007
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really really nice:)
and this is my photo
http://www.usefilm.com/Image.asp?ID=1375679
have a nice day:)
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